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Anche io nel club "statore/guarnizione".

Parliamo della nostra nuova compagna di viaggi Honda

Re: Anche io nel club "statore/guarnizione".

UNREAD_POSTdi AndreaH900 il sabato 3 settembre 2016, 16:45

Metti un voltmetro o almeno una spia, perlomeno lo tieni d'occhio e te ne accorgi con un po' di anticipo.
Du CB is mei che uan
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Re: R: Anche io nel club "statore/guarnizione".

UNREAD_POSTdi ghess il sabato 3 settembre 2016, 16:47

lele....io ad esempio ho fuso il primo a 54.000... montato quello honda da garanzia. ...e ora sto a quasi 120.000.
a quanto sembra il secondo originale è migliore.

prendi il tuo emp e fallo riavvolgere da umberto baldari yes il tuo originale se è buono invece lo tieni di scorta.



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Re: Anche io nel club "statore/guarnizione".

UNREAD_POSTdi lele853 il sabato 3 settembre 2016, 19:30

Infatti mi sa che farò così intanto per chiudere la stagione rimonto quello originale così in un paio di gg ho la moto di nuovo abile poi emp lo faccio riavvolgere!! Avete un contatto di Umberto?! Grazie 1000
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Re: R: Anche io nel club "statore/guarnizione".

UNREAD_POSTdi ghess il sabato 3 settembre 2016, 19:56



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Re: Anche io nel club "statore/guarnizione".

UNREAD_POSTdi lele853 il sabato 3 settembre 2016, 21:43

Grazie 1000 ghess : hail : yes
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Re: Anche io nel club "statore/guarnizione".

UNREAD_POSTdi Gattaccio il domenica 4 settembre 2016, 7:25

Mejo 'ndare più pian Immagine
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Re: Anche io nel club "statore/guarnizione".

UNREAD_POSTdi derchef il domenica 4 settembre 2016, 10:36

Scusate vedo Che si parla tanto di statori
Ma il rotore non lo considera nessuno?
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Re: R: Anche io nel club "statore/guarnizione".

UNREAD_POSTdi ghess il domenica 4 settembre 2016, 11:14

chef scusa ma a fondersi son le bobine dello statore.... il volano magnetico se è buono non lo cambiamo.

che problemi può dare un volano con la calamita??? e piuttosto credo che non si consumerà mai tranne se non perda pezzi di calamita o lesionato.....ma se non ha ste cose inefficenti che senso ha cambiarlo?



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Re: Anche io nel club "statore/guarnizione".

UNREAD_POSTdi mapellimauro il domenica 4 settembre 2016, 11:56

Sono uno di quelli a cui è saltato lo statore EMP. Anch'io avevo sostituito l'originale a 32000 km per precauzione. Lo statore EMP è durato poco più di 9000 km. Fortunatamente ho il led gammatronix che mi ha segnalato che caricava poco e non sono rimasto per strada. Chiamai l' EMP e mi dissero che i km erano pochi per bruciarlo ma ormai erano passati quasi due anni dall'acquisto e quindi niente garanzia. Alla fine ho rimontato EMP e ho percorso quasi 10000 km, per ora sembra funzionare bene. Quello originale dava 14,2 volt sia al minimo che accellerando, quello EMP da 13,8 volt al minimo e 14,3 volt accellerando. Il primo EMP montato dava 13,5 volt al minimo e 14,2 volt accellerando. Sicuramente la tensione che usciva dall'originale era molto più stabile rispetto a EMP. Se dovesse bruciare di nuovo lo farò riavvolgere o monterò l'originale honda visto che negli ultimi anni sembrano migliorati. Consiglio vivamente come scritto da andreaH900 di montare un voltmetro o un led gammatronix per tenere controllata la ricarica. Credo che lo statore non ceda di colpo ma inizi a caricare meno peggiorando col passare dei km, così si può accorgersene ed evitare di restare per strada. ciao
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Re: Anche io nel club "statore/guarnizione".

UNREAD_POSTdi derchef il domenica 4 settembre 2016, 12:04

la tolleranza tra statore e rotore ad esempio che porta a surriscaldamenti
o il tipo di Magneti (che si possono esaurire)
torniamo indietro negli anni:

richiamo ufficiale per i cbr1000 rr 04-05 : nuovo statore e rotore modificato ( proprio quest ultimo causa problemi elettromagnetici "le calamite" porta a bruciare una o piu bobine dello statore , se il veicolo e condotto troppo tempo a bassa velocita)
idem per alcuni modelli 06-07
(poi estesi a tutti per 9 anni dalla data di produzione includendo nel caso anche il regolatore)

richiamo NON ufficiale per i cbf prima generazione ( 2006-2009)
idem come sopra al momento Honda rimborsa anche su veicoli con 10 anni di vita (anche batteria e regolatore)

richiamo NON ufficiale per i CB
come sui cbf (difficolta nel rimborso eventuale guarnizione coperchio valvole)

questo porta a pensare che su alcuni modelli materiali e/o tolleranza non furono proprio cosi curati
quindi se lo statore e un buon riavvolto ( umberto) o nuovo
il regolatore sia in ordine e non qualche cineseria
non resta che incolpare lo statore
componente che probabilmente gia al principio del progetto non era proprio il meglio progetto
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